Kimberly L Jones went viral when she brilliantly used a Monopoly analogy to explain how 450 years of breaking the social contract in our country leads to civil unrest. 

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But before those 2 million+ YouTube views and appearances on The Daily Show with Trever Noah, she and her co-author, Gilly Segal, were making headlines as best selling authors of I’m Not Dying With You Tonight, and have since released a second YA must-read, Why We Fly. 

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On today’s episode, the two join Elena in a conversation around what it takes to build a trusting partnership, how books can be used to forge a more just society, what they’d change in education, and what is giving them hope for a better future. 

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We strongly recommend watching Kimberly's 6-minute video before tuning in. 

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Mentioned on this episode: 

• I’m Not Dying With You Tonight (book by Kimberly and Gilly) 
• Why We Fly (book by Kimberly and Gilly) 
• How Can We Win (Kimberly’s video that went viral)
• How We Can Win (Kimberly’s forthcoming book available now to pre-order book)

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